One of those occasional rants by me which hopefully might go unnoticed
Published on March 5, 2013 By Skarny In Personal Computing

See link - Big IT names should be in Australia having a "chat" about why they enjoy taking Australian money so much. Apparently we can't work it out for ourselves. I'm pretty sure the answer is "Just because. Because we *can* and we *want to*"

Free enterprise or capitalism (or whatever it is) shouldn't give 'them' the right to arbitrarily rip entire nations off. It's probably the opposite of the actual definitions.

At the moment I've only heard "it's mine, I made it, I can charge you whatever I want up to whatever you will pay" as the reasoning...when they start being honest about it.

A good and usual suggestion might be "well you don't have to buy it, and maybe that would make them lower the prices".

But we don't really have that option - there are *not* enough alternatives that are international standards/established.
Even freeware often has commercial/government restrictions on its use.

People do resort to pirating - isn't that a key indicator that maybe they are asking too much?
I've bought software I've needed and wanted since early high-school - I've tried exercising the 'don't buy if it's too much' - lots of us would by default, because:

1. we actually can't afford it in Australia and 
2. we don't want to do the wrong thing by pirating.

But I've never seen any change in attitude of pricing.

And as for hardware - "holy religious icon!", I think loudly daily. How do these people and toddlers around me all have iPhones! Multiple iPhones!
I don't have a mobile phone of any sort as I've never been able to warrant the expense of it plus the monthly rates they charge over here.

One argument used to be that it was all due to physical media/transport/taxes etc. But these costs have been maximally minimised in today's IT world.

Even when we've had dollar value well in excess of the U.S. still the prices can be 2-3 times the equivalent price in the US.

 

Not everyone takes advantage. And sometimes I feel even the increased price is still worth the software product.
Maybe I am just conditioned so much that when I see a 'reasonable' price I get heart palpitations.

Now, I am not sure whether there is going to be a response like "do you know how much we pay for UGG boots over here?".
I'm not even sure of Australia's exports. Maybe booze, minerals, and gits with big knives are all there is.

Actually, the Uggies were nicked - they are as Australian as Vegemite now. In a fit of extreme emotional exaggeration  I'd say almost every intellectual property/product ever developed in Australia (shrug - not really what I was looking for) has been bought or nicked or died of stingray.

Our major food/product outlets screw our farmers while outsourcing and price warring destroys any attempt to start a boutique or competitive business - but then I reckon citizens of the US would be familiar enough with this kind of thing already in their own backyards.

It all just adds to our consumerism misery. We truly are seen as just "those suckers" to be exploited.

Australians tend to bag the US for its self-aware precocious progeny and an outward reputation of worldwide over-bearance - but it's just cultural sh*t stirring - the sometimes uglier part of our multi-cultural larrikinism.

But in the world of Ozzie IT technology lovers, this whole price thing, actually *does* incur real resentment and disdain.

 

P.S. Is all the linking silly?

 

 

 

 


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on Mar 06, 2013

DrJBHL
It hurts even more when my friends are on the receiving end of it.

don't worry too much. they still have one of the highest standards of living worldwide. there are probably only Norway and Switzerland ahead of them.

when they run out of minerals to sell the Chinese: start worrying.

on Mar 06, 2013

when they run out of minerals to sell the Chinese: start worrying.

We're right for a while yet....eventually the Chinese will be fracking us for 20 trillion in gas....

Oh...then they'll just move in....

...while the Japanese are too busy eating whales....

on Mar 06, 2013

tazgecko
Maybe the great utopia of the US, but we have a small idea called fairness. Capitalism for the sake of it, is not a good place to be ...

I'm not advocating capitalism for the sake of capitalism...I'm advocating the free market because it works...of course I'm not looking for a true laissez faire market, but in general when you look at the long run, more economic regulations do not generally benefit society...

tazgecko
Price gouging is illegal in OZ, it's up to them to justify the extra cost of a product. They have been given every opportunity to come forward and explain themselves ... court is usually the last measure.

Like I said earlier, if it is illegal then it's illegal and MS will have to deal with that in court...but I have a problem with "anti-price gouging laws" and if that is Australia's policy then I find that to be very unfortunate....

Contrary to what seems to be many people's beliefs, the price of an item really is not determined by its cost, but I'm not real inclined to belabor on economic theory....the bottom line is that while price gouging may seem like an awful deal for Australia at the moment, in the grand scheme of things the better solution is to introduce more innovation or competition to lower prices, not to simply take a company to court and say "we don't like you, your shit is too expensive, please make it cheaper"...

If the world started pissing on Australia because we felt it's metals and the like were too expensive and mandated it lower its prices, I doubt Aussies would be too happy about that...

on Mar 06, 2013



Quoting moshi, reply 16when they run out of minerals to sell the Chinese: start worrying.

We're right for a while yet....eventually the Chinese will be fracking us for 20 trillion in gas....

Oh...then they'll just move in....

...while the Japanese are too busy eating whales....

 

the Chinese will do that? that would be a shame as you have your own companies like Rio Tinto or BHP that have decades of experience in ruining the environment worldwide. (and likely worse labour standards than Foxconn).

on Mar 06, 2013

Seleuceia
...but I have a problem with "anti-price gouging laws" and if that is Australia's policy then I find that to be very unfortunate....

The thing is it's not an Australian policy, it's a common law which states you can't discriminate financially against an individual. Common law can't be changed (but they can be challenged ), they are the foundation of all Australian (English) Law.

The problem the companies find themselves in is that they offer a product elsewhere at a lesser price and ask us to pay a largely inflated price, thus they are discriminating against Australians. If it wasn't for the internet and digital downloads, they could probability debate it's the cost of doing business, but because there is little extra cost in providing an online distribution, people are asking the question.

 It's not an Anti-American view, all companies in OZ have to abide by our laws, it's just some international companies think they are above them...

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